Site by Gray Loon. Share Followers 0. I've never handled one. No practice ammo shooting sessions here so I'm pretty much screwed on the shooting until I find a friendly range. There are a bunch of mice that want to know! The Stoeger … Looked crappy but worked well. Starting Price $449. Pump . As I said in the promo video....."Benelli,s don't break". If so, do, then choose. That's really not the case. No bolt release button, charging handle, match saver or welded lifter...hell don't even need ammo. pistol grip. Field Grade: Joined: Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:07 pm Posts: 24 First off, I realize these two guns have been compared before on this site, but I wanted to brig my own … They work, they last long, and spare or tuning parts are plentiful. So it comes as no surprise that the 3-gun version comes out of the box ready to handle the toughest of competitions. Stoeger M3500 NIGHTMARE/WARNING!!!!! That horse gasps and flops around everytime someone says "it's going to be just as good as a Benelli but at half the price"!!! Have a good weekend everyone. Mossberg makes a decent pump action, but they have not perfected semi auto's. by bassinator » Tue Dec 14, 2004 3:35 pm . There's nothing wrong with a Camaro and there's always that skilled dude in one whose gonna stomp the old farts in Corvettes but if money's not an issue why bother starting out with the slower machine? Surprisingly absent from both lines, though, was a smaller, 20-ga. counter-part to the ubiquitous 12. Over and Under . He chose the M3000. 2. share. This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. 24″ Rifled Slug Barrel – APG Camo $ 779.99; Benelli Benelli M2 20ga. You cant beat the M2 for quality and reliability.   Pasted as rich text. Yep painting with a broad brush.....cam pin was for a Versa Max, not an M3000, my bad! I don't know if I had a M2 I would have that mindset. asuran83, I would buy the one that doesn't require you to buy any parts from another manufacturer to make it run properly. I put the 4 top 3Gun shotguns on the table, each with a box of shells, for my 13 year old and let him shoot them. I have a Benell I M1 Super90 with a 21" vent rub barrel and a + 4 Nordic mag extension on it. level 1. So I guess Kurt is recommending the SuperNova. https://www.stoegerindustries.com/m3000-shotgun, http://modernfirearms.net/en/shotguns/italy-shotguns/benelli-m1-eng/, Proud member of the 1924 US Olympic Hockey Team. Neither the M3000 or any of its operators are old enough to have that many rounds through one, Also, as I recall you mentioned in a post once that you had replaced a broken barrel extension and various other worn out parts over the course of that many rounds. As for what needs to be done, that is rather subjective, but I would say getting a TTI lifter or having yours welded up by C-Rum's is an absolute must, (same for the M3000) getting a mag tube obviously (once again same for both). The company's Stoeger Publishing division also publishes books and videos about firearms, hunting and fishing. In order to view the PDF files used on this site, you will need the free Adobe ® Acrobat ® reader. I have a Stoeger m2000 and have shot the Benelli M2 and the Stoeger is a fine gun but just isn't as smooth. … Starting Price $449. Totally agree! If we were willing to accept the minimum charge weight specified in the manual, no one would bother to polish the tube. Stoeger M3000 12 Gauge Semi Auto Shotgun with Realtree Max-5 Camo and Burnt Bronze Cerakote $649.00 $599.00; Notify Me When Available; Brand: Stoeger; Item Number: 31886 ; Stoeger M3020 20 Gauge Semi-Automatic Shotgun with Mossy Oak Bottomland Camo Finish $619.00 $569.99; Notify Me When Available ; Brand: Stoeger; Item Number: 31847; Stoeger M3500 12 Gauge Semi-Auto Shotgun … Have any of you tried one of these pads? told me right off, so is an A5 got cheese baked right in??? CFDoc LSU Fan Member since Jan 2013 1465 posts. By pwall1988, May 5, 2014 in Benelli. I don't really hog out loading ports, looking at my gun is like looking at a stock gun in comparison to guns these days. Lastly, I know many really like the Stoeger M3000 shotguns for 3-gun and home defense type duty. How is THAT for sacrilege! Is it the same system or are there differences? Starting Price $349. No one (at least not I), is trying to talk you into selling your Benelli to buy a Stoeger. There is not a single Stoeger with as many rounds out there as I have on my Benelli, and if they run 1/4 as long it might be a good deal but what I have read so far they have a ways to go. I cannot comment on how Stoeger does. No, no.....he's pointing guys towards the a5. The M2 is in good condition and comes witb e erything a new one would. Benelli is mostly known for their semi-auto designs, specifically the M series. Powered by Invision Community. Thank you for your time and any help or advice you care to give me. Go. Starting Price $619. Especially when compared to a fast pump shotgun such as the Mossberg 500. Timber HD $ 869.99; Benelli Benelli M2 12ga. Replies (4) Options Top. I had both guns for a while and liked both, but couldn't justify keeping both. Stoeger offers a complete lineup of shotguns, designed for every occasion and built with hunters and target shooters in mind. Since Stoeger is owned by Benelli I am guessing it has the inertia operating system in them like the Benelli autos do. It is not a secret that along the way, Beretta bought Benelli, Franchi and Stoeger, and from that alliance has come a line of less expensive inertia-operated semi-autos under the Franchi and Stoeger names. Starting Price $449. September 13, 2018 in Shotgun - Technical. You can just feel the quality when a Benelli is in your hands and you run the bolt by hand. Well listen to Mr Fancy Pants, how about a little hot chocolate for ya ?? This means that you may notice that the rate at which you are able to cycle through rounds is a good deal slower than usual. What makes them so … Quote: Originally … You can take it apart incredibly easy. You know....parts from another manufacturer that will fit the gun and be FAR BETTER than the parts it came with...kind o like the parts guys have to change out of M3000/M3500/M2000, Versa Max for Benelli parts so the guns will work properly.....little things like that! I have a versamax, and usually take a back up with me. It is simply an enhancement (albeit one the Benellis don't need) to run outside the design limits of the factory gun. Cheaper, last just as long, is as reliable, and is winning matches world wide! The shotgun has a sturdy aluminum receiver that comes optic ready. Condor Competition Shotgun. To me, that's what separates a nice shotgun from just a shotgun. Yep. I will add to Toms "sacrilege", I personally like the shell catch design better on the M3000 vs the M2 and will likely swap it out, if it fits which it should. I’ve heard tons of Stoeger shooters claim that these price point shotguns rival firearms twice their price. Next Last. So when the Stoeger M3500 hit my doorstep, I was curious to see what Benelli’s modestly priced Stoeger cousins bring to the table. Benelli is a favorite brand in the IPSC Shotgun world. Go pick up a Benelli and compare it to the Stoeger and you'll instantly feel it. Stoeger M3500 Shotgun Review. I have heard the Limbsaver fitted butt pads work well. BrianEnos.com The Benelli will fire anything down to 1 oz target loads in the 12 gauge and 7/8 oz in the 20 gauge with absolutely no problems. The Stoeger Condor is about as traditional as traditional shotguns can get. They did their homework on this one and I am sure Benelli has been keeping an eye on quality control as well. The Internet's Best Resource for Shotgun Information. Starting Price $449. In any event, you are right that no one yet knows how long the Stoegers will last, as they haven't been in the 3gun world long enough. So I guess Kurt is recommending the SuperNova. View by Type: Waterfowl; Clays; Turkey; Over and Under; Side by Side; Tactical; Pump; Action . Reply. Benelli is more "high quality", where the workmanship on the Stoeger is not nearly as good. Junior Member; Members; 10 4 posts; Share; Posted May 5, 2014. Benelli is a favorite brand in the IPSC Shotgun world. Above all, however, the elements that go into a shotgun's design and construction must work in harmony to augment our innate ability to track and hit targets on the move. If the price were in the same ballpark, I would probably buy an M2. Any Action . I can't wait to sell my over priced Benellis and jump on the Stoeger bandwagon!!! Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:41 pm . The Stoeger M3K is a very good gun for the money IMO. everything is much more robust and held to more consistent tolerances on any benelli vs stoeger, but that horse is beat to death. I cannot comment on how Stoeger does. I have 2 questions if like to get some info on. When I shot an M1 I used a Limbsaver Airtech recoil pad and a foam stick on cheek piece. It is certainly no Benelli, I don't know how anyone could take that position. whats the difference, will I be in trouble a year down the road if I buy a Franchi model 612 0r 620 or a Stoeger … Starting Price $669. As far as magazine tube polishing, the guns run fine without it as long as you bump up the minimum recoil level at which you are willing to run. Reply. Only one you can run out of the box without additional parts. 19 posts • Page 1 of 1. stoeger vs. franchi vs. benelli. Mag tube and go! In any event, you are right that no one yet knows how long the Stoegers will last, as they haven't been in the 3gun world long enough. × Can you get out and shoot both? Just show up with one and you're good. I’m a Benelli owner and a bird hunter. How Does the Stoeger m3000 Compare to the Benelli M1s90?? Posts: 1,019 Thanked: 498 times Re: Stoeger M3000 vs Franchi Affinity. Back to top . The Stoeger M3500 is a 7.8-pound inertia-driven semi-automatic shotgun capable of cycling everything from light 2 3/4-inch to heavy 3 1/2 … Condor Field Shotgun. Report Save. Neither the recoil spring system of Stoeger M3500 is fancy nor is the stock material good. 0 0. I am looking at buying a used M2 or a new MOA Stoger 3000. Ahem......Benelli....265,000 rounds....thats right two hundred and sixty five thousand rounds on my original M1, and the closest M 3000? Page 1 of 2 - Benelli Nova or supernova or Stoeger? Stoeger Industries is a manufacturer and importer of firearms into the United States.. That is a lot of words Kurt! Unnecessary bulk, poorly thought out stock dimensions, badly placed controls—all these will degrade how a shotgun … wiley Member. × Benelli's never break..... but when they do and you ask an Italian Benelli rep to fix it they say they never break, if its broken its just your fault...... but if they do break (which they never do according to the Rep...) .... the fault is just that you Americans just go and shoot them too much...... First ever IPSC European Shotgun Championships in Italy 2003. The M1 is a better quality shotgun, although the M3000 is certainly not junk. You can also swap some of the internals like the extractor for actual benelli parts which are machined to … The Benelli Performance Shop M2 3-Gun Edition intertia-powered 12-gauge shotgun … How do you think they compare or match up to my M1 Super 90 as I have it now? Also where can I get a Benelli cam pin, the one in my M3000 is cracked....etc. Join Date: Oct 2011.   Your link has been automatically embedded. If that's what you consider "low base", then you have nothing to worry about. By Benelli Benelli 828U Barrel Rib – Low $ 169.99 Benelli Benelli 828U Sling Swivel Base for Barrel $ 69.99 Benelli Benelli Ethos Stock Spacer $ 24.99 Benelli Benelli … I haven't shot more cause none of the ranges here in the Houston area will allow me to shoot it unless I shoot ONLY SLUGS. Clear editor. The M3000 is much improved, but only time will tell if it has the long-term durability for such an abusive sport. Send me a bag full of crap, please. Or, rather, the field. I can testify that this Stoeger is a quality gun for the money, and it doesn’t suffer the Mossberg “rattle” either. Check out how to safely and properly unload your inertia-driven Benelli shotgun! Feb 11, 2014 247 2 18. I do however still firmly believe in their product, I was shooting Benlli,s long before they sponsored me and am shooting them still. When it comes to shotguns, Benelli is a name you can always trust, and the M2 has already established itself as one of the best all-around shotguns on the market. The only thing I didn’t like about the Airtech is that it is very sticky / grippy and gets caught on your shirt easily. Give the guy with the used M2 phone number. re: Benelli Vs Stoeger … Double Defense Shotgun. Stoeger Logo - Every Day Tough (1.45 MB) Download ©2021 Benelli USA. The Beretta A300 and the Stoeger M3000 / M3500. M3500 costs the half of Benelli M2. The Stoeger M3000 action does look a lot like the Benelli action (  https://www.stoegerindustries.com/m3000-shotgun  /  http://modernfirearms.net/en/shotguns/italy-shotguns/benelli-m1-eng/  ). I own a couple Benelli's (SBE and M1S90) and a Stoeger M3K that I use in 3GUN. pwall1988 10 Posted May 5, 2014. pwall1988. Feb 17, 2015 #1 Looking for a new shotgun in camo for around $600 - $700 trying to decide if i should stick with pump action reliability of the Benelli Super nova or go for a low end Semi Stoeger … new shotgun, Benelli Super Nova or Stoeger m3500. Much, much easier to clean and maintain. That's like buying a Camaro to race in your local Chevy track day when you can afford a Corvette. The Turkish guns are definitely not in the same league in fit and finish. The … Display as a link instead, × In the 1960s, Benelli adopted this operating system and down through the ensuing decades has refined it and made it the mainstay of their shotgun line. In this shotgun video Elliott from Freelance Duck Hunting takes a look at two semi automatic shotguns. yes I replaced a bolt carrier at 135,000 rounds because I didn't understand to lube it, and now you all know, (circa 2002) and a barrel extension at 157,000 rounds, I didn't have to replace the extractor and spring in the first 2000 rounds, nor did I have to polish the magazine tube to get my Benelli to run. I have a Limbsaver on an M3000 and it seems to work well. Stoeger Logo - Every Day Tough - Reversed (1.47 MB) Download. I have a kiln. Please post chokes questions in the SRBC forum. Nalapombu, If you have the $ to buy the M2 this seems like kind of a silly question. Stoeger shotguns have earned a solid reputation for affordable quality and reliability. I don't want a pistol grip on it at all and must be pump and affordable. Even on the Super Nova you need to obtain a tube which as far as I can tell is an additional part. The 24-inch barrel points well and quickly puts lead where you want it.   Your previous content has been restored. Striker-fired . Established in 1924, Stoeger Industries, a member of the Benelli USA family, offers a complete selection of shotguns and pistols.Favored Stoeger products include the Condor Outback 12-Gauge 20" Over Under Shotgun, M3K Freedom Series 3-Gun 12-Gauge 24" Semi-Auto Shotgun, and STR-9 9mm Pistol w/15rd Magazine.Stoeger offers a combination of quality, … I don't think I have seen anyone claim the Stoeger is better than a Benelli. While I've no personal experience with the Mossberg 930, I have had other Mossberg semi's. 6 years ago . As for game changer....I happen to know that is like 8 different kinds of cheese baked into the crust of a pizza....T.V. Benelli ; Stoeger M3500 NIGHTMARE/WARNING!!!!! If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Benelli Vs Stoeger Posted by Donkeypunch on 6/3/17 at 11:52 am. In addition to its lighter build, better grips, and 20 gauge options, the Benelli also features the Crio System and ComforTech buttpad which provide better shot patterns and … Or price. Side … 9 days ago. Benelli Beretta are old, founded, excellent hand made italians guns using the finest metal quailty and computer design (benelli) franchi is italian and doesn't have as long a history.. and stoeger is made with low grade metals in Turkey with guns turned out for cheap on machines, fit and finish plus metalurgy is not comparable. The Stoeger is basically a clone of the Benelli. What would need to be done to the M2 besides a mag tube? All I do is lightly break the sharp edges on the factory port with a fine file, but here is an area where you can really go wild, but probably shouldn't unless you really have a good handle on how the gun functions and what are the critical areas; just look for the post that says "I need a new M2 receiver". IAW Veteran . The M1/M2, the M3, and M4 are all fascinating and revolutionary designs. With that setup it shot softer than my M2 with the comfortech stock. Condor Supreme Shotgun. Never shot the gun prior to the Limbsaver installation so can't give any comparison to stock. Starting Price $449. 2. My M1 doesn't seem to like the lightest skeet and trap loads - or it could be me, in combination with the inertia system. I really like my friend's supernova tactical but don't want anything too tactical, i.e.   You cannot paste images directly. No! Having some choices in the budget shotgun market is great. Chat [1] Calendar Photos FAQ: Home. Main Page; Reviews ... Stoeger m3500 vs Beretta a300 Outlander. I mitigated that by wrapping it in electrical tape. You may have noticed that I never made a recommendation to the OP about which to buy, because I do not want to come across as a shill. Mine hasn't puked yet, but I don't trust it. But it makes use of a reliable operating system mechanism. 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